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by quadibloc
Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:47 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

That is basically the same advertisement as the one I found, except for being set in a different face: jennings_super_ad3.jpg And I later found the exact advertisement in the August 19, 1939 issue of Billboard, on page 75: jennings_super_ad7.jpg Incidentally, I also looked on the Web for pictures of...
by quadibloc
Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:48 pm
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

It is true that the Jennings Super Chief dates from 1939. I could only find three surviving examples pictured on the Internet, all had double-cherry payout. It is true that single-cherry pay was offered on Jennings post-war machines. The first three of them were the Bronze Chief, the Super Deluxe Cl...
by quadibloc
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:20 pm
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

Jennings had single cherry in late thirties...... Although Jennings appears to be the first to switch from lemons on the third reel to cherries on the third reel, in making an extensive search of Billboard and Automatic Age to learn about the evolution of slot machine payouts, I've seen no evidence...
by quadibloc
Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:00 pm
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

I think we now have enough evidence to ascertain that single cherry pay out on Mills machines didn't appear pre WWII. Huh? I thought this thread contained proof that, contrary to what I had thought, single cherry payout did originate in 1939, shortly before World War II started. Also it rules out W...
by quadibloc
Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Let's Talk about Slots
Topic: Today's quiz "name that machine"
Replies: 18
Views: 7764

Re: Today's quiz "name that machine"

I'm surprised no one answered the easy one; 20 is a Mills Extraordinary. Oh, but that was named in the initial post, which also identified the one to its left as a Buckley. The one on its right is clearly a Mills Silent Bell of some type, but I'll have to look harder to see which one. Ah, no. I took...
by quadibloc
Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:20 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

I knew about the pre-war Melon Bell, although I never saw that incorrect flyer! That at least settles that it is the watermelon it looks like, rather than a true melon like a Honeydew. Or are watermelons really melons? Looks like a trip to Wikipedia is in order to sort out this botanical mystery! Bo...
by quadibloc
Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:50 pm
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

I don't remember cherries on the third reel until the electro-era. They still look wrong to me.The single-cherry payout is usually ascribed to the Mills Chrome Bell, of January 1939, at least according to the advertising blurb of the day. I have seen, on page 160 of Lemons, Cherries, and Bell-Fruit...
by quadibloc
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:19 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Sega Mad Money award card and reel strips
Replies: 8
Views: 5814

Re: Sega Mad Money reel strips

I thank you very much for this image! However, I am puzzled about one thing. If the image as given is printed on A3 paper, each slot machine symbol will apparently take up 3.5 cm exactly. That implies the reels have a diameter of 8.772319... inches (and in metric, the reciprocal of pi being involved...
by quadibloc
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

I see I was mistaken about the cherry on the third reel; it wasn't introduced with the first series of post-war Jennings machines. I will keep looking to see if I can pin it down.
by quadibloc
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:18 am
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

I get fearful when I see the likes of a War Eagle or Castle Front with a pay out on single cherry As well you might! Of course machines can have their payouts altered, and not only by misguided collectors. When single-cherry payouts became fashionable, or, for that matter, when paying out 18 coins ...
by quadibloc
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:02 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Western Mysterious Eye
Replies: 4
Views: 4687

Re: Western Mysterious Eye

I just recently saw the video referenced in this thread by finding it through a YouTube search. I had heard of the Mysterious Eye through reading Dick Bueschel's "Lemons, Cherries, and Bell-Fruit Gum" - although I'd seen a Billboard ad for it in previous searches, I took no notice of it. B...
by quadibloc
Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:28 am
Forum: Let's Talk about Slots
Topic: Mills Dice Restoration
Replies: 4
Views: 4519

Re: Mills Dice Restoration

The worst machines I ever restored are two Mills Dice. Man, the company must have been crazy to start such a project. You're not far wrong. Mills lost a considerable amount of money because of the machine. However, one of the Mills brothers who was a regional manager in California was able to make ...
by quadibloc
Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: How many cherries?
Replies: 63
Views: 23214

Re: How many cherries?

To get accurate information on questions like this, I looked at old issues of Billboard magazine, to see what slot machines were advertised at the time to operators. In the November 1945 issue of Billboard, Mills' first post-war machine, the "Cherry Bell" is shown. Despite its name, the pa...
by quadibloc
Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:36 pm
Forum: Open Forum
Topic: Bell-Fruit Gum Company: Fact or Fiction?
Replies: 33
Views: 31949

Re: Bell-Fruit Gum Company: Fact or Fiction?

In the very early Mills machines with a spearmint leaf symbol, that symbol was later replaced by the cherries, not the bar or the bell. The reel strips of that kind had a bar, but the bar symbol was the blue stick of "Liberty Bell Gum-Fruit" instead of "Bell-Fruit Gum" as on thei...
by quadibloc
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Let's Talk about Slots
Topic: 30 min film tour of the Mills factory 1935
Replies: 16
Views: 7018

Re: 30 min film tour of the Mills factory 1935

I had only recently heard about the Mills Dice machine, a little-known competitor to the Buckley Bones and Bally Reliance. I hadn't realized, although that certainly sounds plausible, that it was a major debacle for the company. I had learned from another forum that because the design was complicate...
by quadibloc
Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:45 am
Forum: Discoveries
Topic: Mills Futurity - A cheating Mills Bandit?
Replies: 34
Views: 20428

Re: Mills Futurity - A cheating Mills Bandit?

Next you'll be suggesting some of them had false Jack pots on the front with coins you could never win! That would be the Seven Way Multi-Bell for one. I'm not knowledgeable enough to come up with more examples. I see I missed your post where you gave its reel strip layout. Left drum: 13 compartmen...
by quadibloc
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:07 am
Forum: Discoveries
Topic: Mills Futurity - A cheating Mills Bandit?
Replies: 34
Views: 20428

Re: Mills Futurity - A cheating Mills Bandit?

So, what would be the odds of the dice in the window of a Buckley Bones coming up the same? As we know, the Buckley Bones and the Bally Reliance didn't actually throw dice; it had reels which, instead of having reel strips with symbols printed on them, had little boxes with dice, the height of the ...
by quadibloc
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:54 am
Forum: Discoveries
Topic: Mills Futurity - A cheating Mills Bandit?
Replies: 34
Views: 20428

Re: Mills Futurity - A cheating Mills Bandit?

Mathematically derived theoretical odds are never a perfect description of real world odds. Except for being a generalization, that is pretty much true. Dice aren't perfect cubes, spinning wheels of fortune aren't absolutely perfect, and so on, and so any such device would be slightly biased. Even ...
by quadibloc
Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Questions and Answers
Topic: Shakespeare says...........
Replies: 7
Views: 5095

Re: Shakespeare says...........

You are correct; a quick search shows that the quote is both from Hamlet, and slightly altered, the original form being:

There's a Divinity that shapes our ends, rough-hew them how we will.
by quadibloc
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:35 am
Forum: Discoveries
Topic: Mills Futurity - A cheating Mills Bandit?
Replies: 34
Views: 20428

Re: Mills Futurity - A cheating Mills Bandit?

you say text book quote was correct except the bit i added at the end...I did NOT add anything ,I cut and pasted the complete thing,as was,no changes. I can see where the confusion came from. An expression like 3:7 is another way of saying the ratio 3/7, which emphasizes that it is a ratio comparin...