Prince August casting for Wonders coin slot

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Prince August casting for Wonders coin slot

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After trying to obtain a Wonders 1D coin slot for many months without success, and with the advice of Arrgee and Jingle, I have attempted to make a casting using Prince August metal.

For a mold I used a Silicone putty, and tried both the Prince August normal casting metal and their 5 star metal. I had similar results using both metals. As you can see from the picture, the final result isn't perfect but I can live with it.

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Nice Job... !!THUMBSX2!!
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Looking good, you must be pleased.
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What's not perfect about it?? Looks just like the mold to me. !PUZZLED! Sand castings always come out a little or a lot wonky and need some hand finishing to clean them up. But if you look at almost any old machine you'll see each has unique imperfections. Too perfect a repro part or paint job and it just doesn't look right.
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Well done Alan :D
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I think that's amazing - well done. !!THUMBSX2!!
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Well done Alan, nice to see a good result. !!THUMBSX2!!
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Thanks to all for all your comments. Is there anything I can use to protect the Prince August metal from scratches and tarnishing, I was thinking maybe giving it a couple of a coats of a hard wearing gloss clear varnish.
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Electroplate?
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wow that's great
so what is Prince August metal .... !PUZZLED!

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If you Google it you'll find their website.
They make kits for the hand casting, tiny soldiers and then painting them brigade.

The metal ingots they sell for home casting are low melting point products and tend to wear or scratch easily, however it is very satisfying to make your own.

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Prince August is the product brand name of the Toy Soldier Factory founded by a Swede in Kilnamartyra Village, Macroom, Co. Cork, Ireland. They sell several low melt white metals:
PA2047: Model Metal (54% Lead / 11% Tin / 35% Bismuth). It contains bismuth which reduces the melting temperature and shrinkage. While most alloys shrink while solidyfing, Model metal does not. Melts at 138°C (280°F). Cast at 300-320°C.

PA2057: Standard Metal (65% Lead / 2% Antimony / 33% Tin). Melts at 210°C (410°F). Cast at 320-340°C.

PA2060: 5 Star Metal (94.5% Tin / 3% Zinc / 2.5% Antimony) is the safest metal as it is lead free. Melts at 230° C (446° F). Cast at 320-340°C.
Why they adopted the name of a pro-Nazi Prussian prince remains a mystery to me.
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After using both the 5 star metal and the standard metal for the wonders coin slot they both had similar results.
They both, when cleaned up with a fine wet and dry paper produce an acceptable shine. The downside is, being a soft metal as BP states they do scratch easily.
I suppose a positive side is that you can always melt it down again and make another one, but I think there is maximum number of times you can do this before adding new metal.
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Wonders coin entry

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Topic moved & merged - Site Admin.

Remember some time ago one of forum members cast a wonders coin entry and can't find thread anywhere so hoping by starting new post may jog someone's memory. I want to try the same thing and am looking for ideas as to materials to use. Think making the mould will be fairly straight forward as I have another to use as a template. Was thinking of trying this plumbers material but unsure as to how effective it might be.
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You'll have two issues using tin or other soldering materials for casting.
1- Shrinkage once cooled
2 - The end result will produce a soft product which wears quickly.

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Think you could be right on both counts BP thought of that initially believing it to be harder wearing than lead and still don't need extreme temperatures to melt. sure will come up with something when get a chance to search web
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I made a Wonders coin slot out of Prince August, and although it's a soft metal, it still looks good today.
I posted it on the forum back in May 22, 2014.
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Thanks Alan that was the post I was referring to made it easier to find thanks

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Looks perfect for the job Alan any particular silicone putty that you used ?
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Re: Prince August casting for Wonders coin slot

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The putty I used was -

Siligum Gedeo Pebeo Silicone Moulding Paste, you can obtain it easily online.
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