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What's My Line, more than I can chew, I think

Postby widget2k4 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:27 pm

Just got this winter project but starting to think I have taken on more than I can chew.
I could do with some help if possible. I don't know whether to concentrate on repairing the mechanical parts first, or trying to go about getting a back flash organized?
There is no door, no case, and hardly anything moving mechanically, lots of rot in the metal.
I can't help but think the backflash is going to be the biggest problem, so if anyone can help with a good high quality image to work with in Photoshop it would be much appreciated.
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Re: whats my line, more than i can chew i think

Postby raj » Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:06 am

My view is that it is too far gone to effectively re-manufacture as a R&W giant allwin, as it will have so many replacement parts. The size of the flash makes it difficult to scan and print. How about using self adhesive vinyl to make a Bryans type of flash, stuck between two sheets of plastic to make your own? Other than that, wait until another scrapper come up, as they do occasionally and rebuild from that one.

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Re: whats my line, more than i can chew i think

Postby aristomatic » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:12 pm

Looks like may be more winter spring and summer project.
Anyway, whatever you decide, good luck with the efforts. All I know is that you get the best pleasure out of the more difficult jobs. I have taken on some projects and people don't believe the finished product, although by default some of these more difficult jobs can, as Raj says, make the finished product, more new and less original.

If it was mine, I think I would be tempted to disassemble and free up and clean and lube all parts and then leave for a while. Then again, as Raj says, give some time for a donor case to turn up or another giant allwin donor machine in poor condition and make one good original out of two, and make another with a majority of new parts. By your other work you are fairly sure to make a good job whatever.

Share the before and after pix.

GP

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Re: What's My Line, more than I can chew, I think

Postby widget2k4 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:44 pm

I'm already into it lol
The backflash is worrying me though. Where the hell am I going to get one of them? I have a Fill Em Up but I really didn't want to copy that - I wanted to collect all of them.

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Re: What's My Line, more than I can chew, I think

Postby andy g » Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:55 pm

Hi
This is not the backflash you are looking for but it is from a giant R & W allwin.
Might be of use to you: Ruffler & Walker Many Happy Returns backflash

Andy G

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Re: What's My Line, more than I can chew, I think

Postby widget2k4 » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:42 pm

wow Andy that would have been perfect if it had been the right one, but i suppose if the right one cant be found i can just use that one, will save letting a machine go to waste.
thank you :)

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Re: What's My Line, more than I can chew, I think

Postby raj » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:29 pm

Well, this one is a no-brainer Widge, these are not rare machines, so, unless another helpful member has your backflash, rebuild using this one & wait for the right machine. I've had all of them over the years, including the Win a Cig, so bide your time.

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Re: What's My Line, more than I can chew, I think

Postby john t peterson » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:03 am

Widget2k4,

Not the best picture but better than nothing. If you need a clearer shot, let me know and I'll see if I can dig it out of the warehouse.

J Peterson
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Re: What's My Line, more than I can chew, I think

Postby widget2k4 » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:40 am

Thanks mate, however I have just bought a complete one with mint flash so I will strip it and copy that one. :)
Bit of a nightmare to strip down like. :(

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Re: What's My Line, more than I can chew, I think

Postby pennymachines » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:26 pm

When asked to advise buyers of these multi-ball allwins, I always say, "make sure the mechanism is clean and un-corroded". Compared to most allwins they're complex with many trips which are tilted by the weak force of ball bearings falling against them. The payout mechanism is also unique, and the working metal surfaces need to be very smooth. Having said that, if you're able to rescue one from such awful condition, so much the better. After all, this fellow built one from scratch.


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