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Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:41 pm
by pennymachines
This 1930s 'Lights of London' (Little Auctions, March 21st) has seen better days, and someone's had fun with the paint pot, but has anyone seen one before? I can find no reference to it anywhere. These odd-ball, forgotten, British pinball machines always intrigue me.

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:50 pm
by treefrog
Looks like one of my restorations :HaHa:

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:00 pm
by moonriver
I wonder if the traffic lights changed like a Tuck Shop traffic light when the ball passed

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:18 pm
by pennymachines
I imagine the idea was to progress the lights from red to green by hitting the correct scores, possibly for a payout?

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:19 pm
by gameswat
pennymachines wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:18 pm possibly for a payout?
Well Yes, the much lauded "JACKPOT" ! :didact: !SMARTY!

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:01 pm
by moonriver
I'd love to see it working, hope someone able bought it to restore

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:49 am
by pennymachines
Apparently London’s first electric traffic lights were installed on the corner of St James’s Street, Piccadilly, in 1926, with police stationed next to them at all times to ensure drivers obeyed them. That could be a clue to dating this pinball, probably made when traffic lights were a novelty.

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:49 am
by wembleylion
There is also a Belisha beacon each side of the traffic signal so this would date it to around 1934 when the first ones were installed in Britain.
John

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:58 pm
by arrgee
Photo looks like its from americaland Mr PM, especially with the 'Drive To Right' sign.

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:27 pm
by pennymachines
True... So I found this photo labelled 'St James Street, Piccadilly, London - 1925', which shows the lights.


TrafficLights.jpg

According to Wikipedia, the first automatic lights in Britain were placed at the junction of Lichfield Street and Princess Street, Wolverhampton, in 1927.

Tellingly, the Pathé newsreel clip in this video is tiltled, The New "Lights of London".



The New "Lights of London" British Pathé, 1926 (these automatic lights appear to have replaced the manual ones installed a year earlier).


Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:57 pm
by pennymachines
wembleylion wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:49 am There is also a Belisha beacon each side of the traffic signal so this would date it to around 1934 when the first ones were installed in Britain.
Ah yes. At first I thought you were referring to something in the (American) photo I posted. Again first tried in London, then rolled out nationally the following year so, yes, 1934 sounds plausible.


Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:42 am
by gameswat
The Lights of London theme certainly would not have been sold that way in the US, so I thought possibly a US machine with new local casting added? But I couldn't place the trim or anything I'd seen like it. Was just conversing with a specialist early pin collector in the US about something else so asked him, he thinks UK made as all the front hardware is unlike anything US made and he also has never seen the game.

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:55 pm
by moonriver
That would have made a nice little restoration project for you Gameswat!

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:48 pm
by gameswat
Certainly a rare and interesting game, appears you have player control over the fingers to change scoring hole shots using the large knob on the front, plus being early E/M. But with such a large backlog of projects I've almost stopped buying machines, unless something really unusual and this wouldn't have been wacky enough. Hardly anything turns up in Aust these days of any description!

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:34 pm
by paul
Slightly off topic, a picture of B.M.CO 1930s allwins, BELISHA BEACON & TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

Re: Lights of London pinball

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:51 am
by arrgee
Two lovely looking machines Paul, Charles Featherstone certainly had an inventive mind and a great eye for design