WW1 and WW2 related machines

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Thanks for posting the photo of the Allies Flags - great looking machine.

All the best

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Hi Woody,
You're welcome. Please note. it is not the 'Allies Flags' as miss-quoted in the Automatic Pleasures book, but is actually 'The Conquerors Flags'
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Here is a photo of my latest purchase. It is Airplane by BMC. Are there any more War time / War theme machines out there to add to the list?

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Woody,

That is a terrific looking BM Co. allwin. It appears to have the original topflash which is an added bonus. All too many of them were lost over the years. Your game is also an autopay machine which only adds to the rarity and value. You have a wonderful game in this one.

I am still planning on writing an article on British games with a war theme or from the war years. I've just finished an article on imports to the British market and will get to the war games in short order. I will post something here when the article is completed.

Kind regards,

John Peterson USA
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Yes, nice machine Woody. And as John says, it's always an added bonus to find a BMCo machine with it's top flash. However, I have serious doubts as to whether it's original. The artwork within certainly doesn't look new, but the whole thing just looks wrong. These larger top flashes were normally found on the much larger (non allwin) BMCo wall machines - the relatively small allwins had smaller top flashes, which were very 'squat' in height.
Can anyone else confirm whether the small BMCo allwins were ever fitted with large top flashes?
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Like it Woody, reminds me of this machine a few months ago on ebay, advertised as a BMco war time allwin, not sure if it is, looks quite a nice machine, unfortunately didn't have the funds available at the time to purchase. :cry:

Has anyone out there seen this before ?

I look forward to your war games article John.

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Hi All,

I think the top flash on the Airplane is a later addition and not original.
Like the ebay machine - I have one like it - Photo attached.

Thanks for posting the photos.

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Arrgee

Forgot to ask - can you recall how much the machine sold for on ebay please?

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Can't remember what it went for Woody.

Your machine looks identical, even down to the shape and size of the two chip marks on the inside of the glass on the left, between the runners (the vendor told me they were chip marks when I enquired). I suspect it is the very machine, perhaps you subsequently bought it from the person who won it on ebay?.

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Ah - Could be, but my machine has the red white and blue circular decal and no top flash - so I am not sure now...

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Don't be fooled by the chips in the glass, Arrgee. I have a BMCo Digger with chips in a similar position.
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Woody - Melvyn Wright has posted an original advert for your machine in a topic about B.M.Co automatic allwins, but it looks like the topflash and the case are both different. The machine is called The Flyer, not The Airplane.

Also your case is completely different from the usual B.M.Co cases. I've never seen one of these auto allwins with a cashbox door before. Was this a later case or has somebody put it in a non-standard case? The additional cashbox door at the bottom, and the large topflash makes your machine look huge compared to the standard case. Is this the reason why your machine has fallen over in your photo? :)

As 'Airplane' is a US word (we would say Aeroplane) do you think your machine could have spent some time in America?
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Actually BMCo did make an auto payout allwin with the American sounding name Air Plane, maybe in homage to US forces' lingo. Or maybe we used this term in the early days of flying - like "automobile" hadn't been completely superseded by "car" in the early days of British motoring. Here's a rather poor picture of one I sold many years ago. The case and top on Woody's are not standard BMCo.
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The topflash on mine isn't original. I am 80% sure the case is the correct one though - amazing how many photos etc. of these are coming out of the woodwork. I will be sending Melvyn a decent picture of mine over the weekend.

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Hi Woody
Here's a picture of my Air Plane

Also a picture of a BMCo eight aircraft cup playfield which fires the ball vertically.

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Hi Woody,

Just to let you know, I am recovered from my recent stupor and have written a follow up article to "Khyber Pass." My latest is titled "Band of Brothers." I just submitted it to "Mechanical Memories Magazine." Should Jerry find it satisfactory, you will find it in a future copy of that publication, the only magazine in the UK devoted to what we all love........coin-operated games!

Kind regards,

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Hi John

I very much look forward to reading your latest article and I am sure I will learn lots. I subscribe to the mag and would recommend it to anyone.

All the best

Gary
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I have just collected another project machine - first for sometime. It appears similar to the one in this thread, although has unfortunately been messed around with. I wondered if someone could help out with a photograph of the artwork that I can play around with in Photoshop. It would be much appreciated.
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There was some conjecture on the previous page (page2) about whether the allwin photos shown below were in fact the same machine due to matching chips in the glass. You just need to look at the woodgrain of the cabinet (left hand door frame especially easy to compare) to see they are definitely one and the same, just like a fingerprint. Pics 1 & 2 from eBay and pic 3 once Woody owned it.
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polaris wrote:I wondered if someone could help out with a photograph of the artwork that I can play around with in Photoshop.
Nice find - I like the simple (hand-stamped?) spandrels.
Anyway, here you go.
As you can see, it's all hand-painted, so that may be a better approach than Photoshop.
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