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Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Postby malcymal » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:53 pm

Wow, you did it. Hats off to you as I was certainly pessimistic that anybody would ship it from here. Well done.

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Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Postby pennymachines » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:36 pm

The rewards of perseverance. .:*+*:. Excellent news!

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Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Postby cait001 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:15 pm

coppinpr wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:16 am
well done !! whats next? !PUZZLED!
As far as European machines go, I now have a Cascade, Rialto, Win A Spangles, and a Ballwin Deluxe.
Aside from a full-sized Nordic pajatso machine, there are only a few other European machines I'm looking for to the point where I'd pay the serious shipping premiums, like Win-A-Lot, Flik Flak (German), Challenger, Easy Push, or maybe a multi-stage allwin like The Hat Trick or Steeple Chase.

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Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Postby cait001 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:27 pm

Done and on the shelf. Germany and Britain together at last.
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Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Postby coppinpr » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:04 am

Have you considered one of the three ball stack R&W machines (nicer than the "Hat Trick"). These are, in my view, some of the most playable allwins of all. I have a "Many Happy Returns" but would love the cigarette paying "Yours to be Won".
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Re: Bell Fruit Cascade

Postby cait001 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:50 pm

Many Happy Returns is definitely up there. In the same genre, a Samsons' Challenger (or Mini Challenger) would be cool.
I wouldn't want Yours To Be Won though, I'm not into stuff with tobacco references.

But I specifically want The Hat Trick because it has that physical variable chance that can be adjusted by the operator. One thing I LOVE in this hobby is stories about the ways operators tried to maximize their profits, either through underhanded tactics or offering the illusion of better odds through machine design. The Hat Trick had the adjustable tubes that could be swapped by the operator to change the odds whenever they wanted.

The Hat Trick also has a parallel to Japanese pachinko machines where some would have "clunes", a physical cluster of holes to fall through where only one would advance you to the win, or the next physical chance round.
I run a history booth at the local pinball+gameroom show, so for me if I got a Hat Trick it would allow me to tell even more stories and make more cross-continental connections in machine evolution. :)

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Bell Cascade

Postby geordy55 » Tue May 26, 2020 11:54 am

Topic moved & merged - Site Admin.

Ok, so I’ve bought a Bell Cascade unseen and when I removed the back discovered that the coin mech is missing as well as the coin pusher on the side.
Anyone know where I get get them from? Anyone got any to sell ?
Also what is it like if I have to remove the Playfield ? I’ve heard stories that these are a nightmare to rebuilt and keep every part in place?
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Re: Bell Cascade

Postby treefrog » Tue May 26, 2020 12:09 pm

Was it listed or described honestly

As has been mentioned before, I am fairly certain the coin acceptors are smaller than the standard S10’s and never seen them for sale, but would have to look at mine again to confirm. Maybe why missing.

The slide bar is more simple, a dealer has been selling repros on eBay for years for over £25 delivered and they are unplated which originals are https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CASCADE-STRI ... SwnTdZ7b4y

Can’t remember if MR PM was selling them, maybe wrong

Also do you have the pressure bar on the back, can’t see in picture. I have never had a challenge taking apart and putting back, you just need to do it at an angle.

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Re: Bell Cascade

Postby geordy55 » Tue May 26, 2020 12:30 pm

Hi TF, The short answer was no, it was not listed honestly. The seller said "The machine operators
randomly., however does reject some coins.".
There is no way it can operate at all without the coin mech or the coin flicker, so a little disapointed but hey ho, that's what happens sometimes.

I don't know what a "standard S10 is, but will look it up. I'd appreciate your help in comparing it to your own.

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Re: Bell Cascade

Postby treefrog » Tue May 26, 2020 1:09 pm

I would have hit them

So dug out and you will see how tiny this item is by comparison to standard units. Showing the standard S10 and its larger cousin next to the tiny Cascade version, which is 6 by 6.5 cm.

Never seen one for sale in 12 years of collecting but seen lots of Cascades missing them, maybe the same machines going around. Just make a coin chute straight to the machine, easily done......

There are quite a few members on this site who are arcade operators etc who should know the names for each of these units, maybe they will share. Search S10 and you will find the manual in the resources, not for the others though
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