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Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 11:00 am
by tallstory
I got two Wulff Regina Beromats at Eastbourne Auctions. They were in dreadful condition and it has taken me till now to make one good working machine from them. I have made a short video of the result and loaded it on youtube.


Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 11:24 am
by highfield
What a great job. Well done !!RAYOF!!

Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 12:53 pm
by treefrog
Nice one, looks great.

I assume one was a donor machine. Fun these machine are, one thing, I think there may be some drag on reel one. You can hear the clatter. It might be the reel kicker arm dragging under the reels. Running nice though. !!THUMBSX2!!

Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 4:22 pm
by tallstory
Quite right treefrog. I think you saw the machines at the auction and saw the poor condition they were in. I felt there was no way to get both machines restored so I took parts from both to get the final result.

And you are right about the kicker running on the reel pins but I thought this was intentional. You can see in the photos that the cam allows the kicker to drop when the reels are running (and make a nice clickerty noise) and lifts it when they stop (so you can push the reel on manually) - all timed by the clockwork motor.
However one machine did have this disabled. I'm sure you are far more experienced with these machine than me (this is my first) so what do you think? Is this intentional or not?

Just a quick thank you to the forum for the comments on the Beromats, especially in obtaining new keys, which were very helpful.

Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 5:22 pm
by treefrog
Not sure you are showing the kicker arm. This is below the reels and spins the reels round. Maybe what you are showing is what is causing the noise and not the kicker. Is that right? !PUZZLED!

Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 8:43 pm
by badpenny
On a Günther Wulff bandit the reels each have their own kicker.
They are positioned beneath each reel and sit on a common axle. After commencing the spin they rest well away from the rods on the reels they engage with.
If they are fouling all three it would have to be at the same time. It doesn't seem to that which is happening.

What you are showing is the restart mech on reel one. It operates only from the button on the front of the case. It enables you a second chance if the first reel stops on a lose symbol.
Generally speaking operators weren't enamoured with this and tended to remove part of the trip to disengage it. Check if the clicking is coming from that. If it is, it may not be resetting at the start of the cycle.

BP

Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 10:08 am
by tallstory
Thanks guys. Yes I was using the wrong term. Lack of experience you know. It is the restart arm and it is this that makes the noises. The kicker arms are well clear of the reels when they spin.

Just a thought. Would it be a good idea to start a restoration area in the BB? I would find it useful to have tips, ideas and restored machines in one place. Is it a goer Mr admin?

Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 1:46 pm
by badpenny
Don't worry about learning the terminology tallstory, it's all made up and we constantly confuse each other by doggedly sticking to our own personal version.
We've been listing the most commonly asked questions since 2005 in "Tips For Newcomers" Which may be found HERE. There's a lot of stuff in there you might find interesting and may wish to add to yourself. Oddly we expect newcomers to find it for themselves without help or hinderance! Another resource is the Search facility at the top right of the page. I suggest you carefully read the instructions on how to use it as it's not intuitive or anything at all like Google. It does what it does much like a Günther Wulff bandit does its thing compared to an American three reeler.

BP :cool:

Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 9:51 am
by tallstory
There is a strange payout (or rather non payout) on my Regina Beromat machine. The Awards list gives a 2d payout for 'Bar Bar 2', but the machine never delivers it. Examining the payout cams confirms that this isn't possible, as there is a blank area without a cut-out, so the sensors can't trigger the 2d drop.

Has anyone noticed this strange behaviour with a Beromat before? I'm thinking of filing a cut-out to correct this manufacturing oversight.

Re: Regina Beromat Restoration

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 11:25 am
by badpenny
Good idea, go for it.
Make sure you get the depth right.