Boland Black Beauty, Screen Stars, Brooklands, White City...

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Well it is a '30s mech. Cannot see any vendor, but who knows?
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Yes, that's the one... I had seen it but not saved it. Nice to see a different trim option on one of these.
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I see it only has three slides in use. :o
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I'd say it's a 10-stop. Early '30s.
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I've just read through the whole of this (merged) thread, and I'm getting a strange feeling that I ought to buy a Tom Boland revamp.
(This could be a problem, because I can never quite see the point of buying ONE of anything...)
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brigham wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:12 pm I've just read through the whole of this (merged) thread, and I'm getting a strange feeling that I ought to buy a Tom Boland revamp.
(This could be a problem, because I can never quite see the point of buying ONE of anything...)
You sound like our kind of guy ....... are you aware of the famous Coventry Auction? :roll:
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I've got a Boland for sale... but only one I'm afraid. :#:
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Only one; but an unusual one.
These Boland machines are surely the closest thing there is to a British 'bandit' of the mechanical era. Everything savouring of American racketeering has been carefully removed from them. I love the full-size 10-stop numbers; my Mills/Pace jackpot conversion has them.
I take it you are in Lewes, some 320 miles away?
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My usual courier will deliver it for £50 (providing you're not in some obscure corner of the country) /DRIVE\
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I'm in Stockton-on-Tees, which is not TOO obscure.
You could PM me with description and price, if you were so inclined.
I'll take a guess that it's a 10-stop Mills gooseneck, deep down.
Mine needs a new award card, but it's an obscure size. Can you help with that, too?
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Here is the mech parts of which may have been in a goose neck machine once upon a time as it's a straight 10 stop and does not use the cheat 10 stop but it doesn't have the goose neck coin accepter of course as (a) it wouldn't fit in the case and (b) a simple single drop coin accepter would do the job. I'll pm you anyway. I can make any award card you need.
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Just finished this one bought a year ago at auction. Everything is original, except changed handle for genuine Mills dagger handle due to poor quality of what was there. Have left strips original, so not mint, but authentic. Problem with Bolands castings are they are generally poorly cast and getting smooth finish takes a lot of work. Mechanism was missing parts and had to buy a doner. Complete strip down and run smoothly now

Onto the next one.....
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Well done Tom !THUMBS!
First of many I hope, see all that sanding etc pays off to get a good finish :)
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Very nice Tom, I think best one of those I've ever seen. I like the colours, suits it. !THUMBS!
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There must be an easier way in preparing for paint, I got through 5 cans of filler primer performing 3 coats per can and sanding between each one. And three final top coats wet sanding between each one......now I know why it takes so long. Fortunately I have four other projects running in parallel while coats dry.

Next one :lol:
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Better than when it left Bolands.
I'm not sure about the reelstrips. Are there any other Tom Boland revamps with German symbols? All the three-reelers I've seen have either Mills fruits or Samson Novelty Co. numbers.

EDIT: I'm assuming it has a Mills or Jennings mech., not a Beromat.
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Same reel-strips as one I done ?
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Very nice Keith, I have yet to get that sort of finish, but one day.

Yes these are original Boland strips which I admit looked similar to the German ones. They also used numbers, but I question a lot of the machines with traditional fruits as reckon a lot were replaced later. Most of these were Mills and 10 stop '30s items like my one is. Bolands did seem to make their own handles, often very poor quality castings, of the Hi Top type handles and was not sure what was on this machine as it had a hub like a Jennings, but pot metal. They also had the unusual club handles with the small ball on the end.

I always find colour choice difficult and almost painted castings 3 times, from Carters Cream to white and was going to do light blue, but got bored. In terms of enamel paint, I bought loads of high quality sign-writers paint from Carters Fairground (Joby) after going on a course. Have done little fairground artwork yet, but these are great thick lead based paints for this type of job. You can mix obviously to get shade you want.
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Looking at the proportions, those must be actual 10-stop fruits, then?
That must be another Boland specification; ever since Mills came up with the fruit symbols, there were always 20 to the reel, even in the 10-stop days.
Boland was keen on downplaying the 'seedier' aspects of the machines, hence the numbers, and the 'totalisator' and 'skill' references. He always used 10-stop numbers on the old 10-stop mechs, but I hadn't realised he had produced 10-stop sized fruits.
Another one to look out for!
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brigham wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 7:35 am Better than when it left Bolands.
I'm not sure about the reelstrips. Are there any other Tom Boland revamps with German symbols? All the three-reelers I've seen have either Mills fruits or Samson Novelty Co. numbers.

EDIT: I'm assuming it has a Mills or Jennings mech., not a Beromat.
I've only ever seen Boland machines using Mills, I once had one of the single reel "Film Stars" that apart from the Mills mech also incorporated parts of a bicycle!
Have others seen Jennings or other common machine mechs used?

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