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dirk55
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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby dirk55 » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:13 am

Hi Rick
To set up your jackpot, try this - it worked for me:

First check your jp is in the closed position; now disengage the the pecker blade from the index wheel; rotate the index wheel to the 12 win position and insert the pecker blade. If the pecker blade is now half way down the slot, look at the clock face. You should have the large hand at 12 o clock. Disengage the pecker blade and rotate the index wheel so that both hands are on 12 o clock.

Now check the position of the pecker. It should be all the way in the slot. This is the jackpot position.
Lift the coin tube to the max. This should trip the jp. So at this point if your jp did not trip, check the distance from the trip rod to the inside bottom of the metal 0 shape loop. If there is a gap, you need to bend the trip rod. Do this by holding the rod inside the loop with pliers and bend the front of the rod down with a second pair of pliers. Doing it this way will prevent distortion at the other end.
Now disengage the pecker blade and turn the index wheel just to take it off the jp position; lower the coin tube, and bend the rod just slightly more.
Back to jp position, lift up the coin tube and see if this has worked. If not, just keep bending the rod until it does.


Mystery "L" bracket:
My idea on this is that on a jp win 12 pennies are paid from the coin tube, but none from the jp, because if the "L" bracket is positioned over the trip rod it can't trip the jp. So the punter calls the bag man complaining. The bag man then pays the punter the other 12 pennies from his bag of coins, saving him time fiddling around inside the mech resetting and refilling the jp.
But of course this is just a guess. :lol:
Hope it makes sense.
Derek

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby bryans fan » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:15 pm

flashbk13 wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:22 pm
hi bryans fan. so what does that "L" bracket do on your machine, is it somehow connected to the jackpot to keep the coin tube "handle" and JP lever elevated? My JP tube sits too low, so it doesn't raise high enough for the lever to trip the JP dump. Thank you, Rick
The " L " bracket is in no way part of the payout system. As dirk55 says in their most thorough post, it appears to be there to stop the jackpot from being activated.
I have just had a look at my machine, and can't really add any further advice. Despite needing a fair bit of work, especially on the case, the mech has always worked fine. I am a believer in if it ain't broke don't try and fix it!

I do make an observation though having played with mine. The jackpot on mine is manual fill. The lever that goes through the handle on the side of the payout hopper, which holds the jackpot door closed, is virtually a hair trigger, the slightest movement triggers the jackpot.

I am also, as others have mentioned, confused by your number. I too believed that numbers were started at 101. My clock is number 501. It is one of the first 12 win clocks, dated as 1933 from the Factory records.
Your 12 win version is later I would have thought as it has the variable payouts. Most intriguing!
Hope you get it sorted easily.
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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby gameswat » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:29 pm

Been a long time since I've had a Clock so just guessing here, but Bryans seemed to like anti cheat devices, so could this be a basic tilt mech if you lean the cabinet forward?

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:28 am

Thank you Derek, Bryans Fan, and gameswat for the info. I'll check it all out and report back what I find, Rick

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:41 am

Hi Bryans fan. Where are your 501's located on your clock? Anyone else want to "chime in" as to where your numbers are and what they are? Would be interesting to see the range and years of our clocks. Thank you, Rick

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby highfield » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:01 pm

Hi Rick
I checked the numbers on my adjustable twelve win today.
The number is 947/0 and is in three places.
Stamped on the metal. Stamped on the base at the back and also at the bottom of the door. No idea what this means in terms of manufacturing date. It would be interesting if anyone knows.
I checked my jackpot was operating today. It is and the lever is ‘inside’ the loop of metal.
From my picture you will see a white plastic liner inside the coin tube. This just closes down the inside diameter and allows me to either use old pennies or 50p coins.
John
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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:44 am

Hi John,
Thank you for the reply. Beautiful clock. Mine is supposed to have that paint scheme, but someone painted over it (I can see, especially on the door, the black and gold showing through. I hope others "chime in" with their numbers. It looks like your number is 941, not 947. Mine is only stamped at the base by the back door and the frame top crossbar, but not on my door that I can see. I'll be running my clock US half dollar coins as they work just fine without mods. Rick

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby highfield » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:36 am

Hi Rick
Yes you're right, typo.
It is 941/0
John !PUZZLED!

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby highfield » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:56 pm

Rick
Did you resolve the issue of getting a replacement clock face ?
John

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Re: 12 Win Clock

Postby flashbk13 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:56 pm

Hi John, not yet.


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