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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby pennymachines » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:28 pm

Gameswat wrote:Good photo of the marquee on this site in the museum! Though on measuring my game it's smaller...
If memory serves, the present owner of 'Beat the Goalie' had that top made, so may have scaled it to fit.
Gameswat wrote:I wonder if the different style marquees were originally each suited to a particular size cabinet?
I wonder too. !PUZZLED! Maybe one day we'll know... :D
Anyway, looks like you've found your top. !THUMBS! Now what to call the game? :!?!:
Gameswat wrote:...we could make some new postings and lump each maker all together?
It's an issue I've thought about. The fanatics like you, me, BP and a few others can usually point someone to the hidden thread. Must admit though, I'd forgotten that Museum pic you found. I do have a solution though, which I've been working on since you were a little boy (or it seems that way :o ). Nearly finished. Watch this space... ;-)

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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby gameswat » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:06 pm

John T. Peterson wrote:"Lucky Stars."

Or "Moonjammer"

Or….never rmind.

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Nice try JP but there is already an Allwin by BMCo named "Lucky Star". While out in my workshop just now I was thinking about it absent mindedly and came up with what could be perfect............................. " Over The Moon" :*:

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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby john t peterson » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:23 pm

Quite perfect, Gameswat. !THUMBS!

If you wanted to tweak it a little with topical reference, it could be "To the Moon, Alice." !!IDEA!!

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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby gameswat » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:59 pm

Been busy making the missing marquee. On resizing and making a pattern from PM's marquee photo I found that when you folded the pattern in half the two sides were all over the place! While the "Wineasy" example was almost perfect when folded, though it is about an inch shorter in height once scaled. And you can see in the photo that the "Wineasy" example has the tongue and groove joints running horizontal, instead of vertical on PM's. I decided to use the "Wineasy" pattern but with PM's vertical joints. There were several reasons for this, the sign is already in the "Wineasy" example and fits the shorter size perfectly, and because after cutting separate patterns for the four pieces I found the horizontal joint version was going to waste a huge amount of my great old wood, compared to the vertical joint style which uses shorter pieces and better suited the particular offcuts of wood I had to play with. Otherwise I'd have ruined some lovely long quartersawn oak planks that will come in handy for other projects. When I get time I'll find someone with a large scanner bed to copy the pattern for the site.
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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby badpenny » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:20 pm

You're not wrong there Gameswat old bean.

I guess that's a job for the admin team, as the last thing we want to do is trifle the free flow of knowledge from the contributors by dictating how they contributing.

Should Mr.PM decide to authorise and delegate such activity then I for one would be happy to tackle some sort of cross referencing that would help the situation, also the 2004 Rioja is a particurararley fine example that examples the fine nuss ness of it ..... that !!UHOH!!

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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby gameswat » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:44 am

PM, hard to tell from your photo but is this inner profile around the glass just a flat chamfered angle, or a slightly curved profile? And depth is going to be 1/4" I guess. Thanks.
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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby pennymachines » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:06 pm

It has two flat chamfers, as illustrated, but the edge between them is rounded off.
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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby gameswat » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:15 pm

Thanks PM.

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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby gameswat » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:23 pm

Finally got some blades made for my table jigsaw machine and cut out the marquee, then sanded into shape, as shown here. But before that happened I did a huge amount of work rebuilding the cabinet. A lot was wrong! To begin with the top and bottom planks had been reshaped to remove the profiled edge, possibly by an operator to modernise the shape, or possibly to hide damage to the edges? Could have been a later restorer though because the wood had been hacked at. The machine had been painted at least 5 times by showman judging by the thick paint remaining on the plywood back, and it didn't even get painted every time the front did. But by the time Bob obtained this old photo of my game you can see it had been stripped and coated in a yellow varnish or stain. And you can see that by then the bottom rhd edge was cut off flush with the side, as was the top lhd edge!? Strange, I've had this before but always on the same side, I guess to make a machine fit a tight space. Then later still the game was stripped again and stained a darker colour with wood glued on to replace the two side edges, except the grain was running 90 degrees the wrong way. :tut Just to add insult to injury the cabinet had been sanded back several times using a rough grit orbital sander, rounding the hell out of every edge and leaving nasty swirl marks everywhere!!! I thought about trying to clean the top and bottom panels up then straighten the edges and glue matching grain back to then re -profile. But by the time I'd have cut it back there wasn't going to be much left. I decided to remake the top and bottom using old wood, then clean up the other panels and glue it back together. Was going well until I stripped the stain off the door to discover it's a different wood! And after refitting the cabinet it didn't actually fit correctly anyway as sat back a little too far. So meant making a matching door too. I recycled a piece of the old base wood to use in the bottom mid section of the new marquee though.
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Covered in thin plastic to stop the stripper from drying in the heat here! And this was at like 1am.
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Vintage photo of my game showing top lhd side edge missing, bottom rhd side edge missing, and look Ma, no profiles!

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Re: Bang! Zoom! Straight to the moon!

Postby gameswat » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:18 am

One positive about remaking the top and bottom panels was I could slightly shrink the cabinet size to better fit the door, which after shrinkage and over zealous sanding was a bit gappy.


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