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Sega Windsor slot

Postby radiochrissie » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:11 pm

Hi, I have a problem with this machine in that the main operating lever solenoid has failed, does anyone know where I can obtain one of these coils ? I have tried using a standard 24v coil but this does not work. :-( I think the original is a low voltage type.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby badpenny » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:28 pm

Have you done the usual checks .....
Fuses?
Meter across the solenoid terminals to check power getting that far?
Micro switch on coin gate operational?

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby radiochrissie » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:03 pm

I did many checks and I know the fault is the coil being short circuit, it has overheated at some time, not helped by the ciggy paper wrapped around the 2 amp fuse :!:
Clearly the coil had been causing the fuse to blow as it grounds the supply voltage as soon as it is connected.

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby radiochrissie » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:35 pm

If someone out there has one of these machines I would be grateful if they could tell me the part number of the coil,usually printed on its sleeve.

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby badpenny » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:38 pm

If you trace the wires back to the transformer and then put a meter across those connections you'll get the voltage.

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby treefrog » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:45 pm

I did break a windsor at some point and the bits are somewhere......see how you get on and will dig next time in container if needed....

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby badpenny » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:49 pm

Adding to my post above concerning the voltage of said solenoid. I imagine the voltage is quite low like 6 - 12V DC.
I say this because in the mid 80s I had a Sega Sailor which is the same sort of thing.
Plugging it in would switch it onto free play.
Much scrutinising eventually convinced me somebody had changed the laws of physics overnight.
The evidence was ......
Unplugged, handle was locked, insert coin nothing happened (of course).
Plug it in, lights would come on and handle would free up even though no coin had been inserted.

The coin micro switch which was part of the DC circuit which included the solenoid that freed the arm was a totally different one to the lights circuit which was 240 voltage AC.
The short story is that the two different wirings went close to each other at one point. The AC current for the lighting was inducting a DC voltage across to the other. Although the induced voltage was low it was just strong enough to energise the solenoid sufficiently to free the handle.

Lesson: - AC voltage wiring shouldn't be located alongside DC wiring.

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby JC » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:38 pm

The short story is that the two different wirings went close to each other at one point. The AC current for the lighting was inducting a DC voltage across to the other. Although the induced voltage was low it was just strong enough to energise the solenoid sufficiently to free the handle.
Sorry me ole mate, but whatever you're talking about, it's bollocks. An alternating current won't induce a direct current to flow in another circuit. :didact:

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby badpenny » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:51 pm

In which case I was right the first time ..... someone had changed the laws of physics overnight.

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Re: Sega Windsor slot

Postby radiochrissie » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:23 am

I know the power supply rail is 30v ac but the supply to this particular solenoid is dropped across a 10watt resistor, so the voltage is much lower to operate the said coil.
I can't understand the reason the manufacturer did this ,maybe they had some low voltage solenoids they needed to use up ? !PUZZLED!
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