Sega / Mills mechanism help
Sega / Mills mechanism help
Does anyone know who would service a Mills/ Sega mechanism in Northern Ireland? Any help greatly appreciated.
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Re: Sega / Mills mechanism help
Welcome to the site .....
I don't know the answer to your direct question, but many of us know the answer to your problems if you want to tackle it yourself.
Tell us what symptoms you're experiencing and show us photos from all sides, all angles, all girlfriends and we'll study them with interest ...... well I shall anyway.
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I don't know the answer to your direct question, but many of us know the answer to your problems if you want to tackle it yourself.
Tell us what symptoms you're experiencing and show us photos from all sides, all angles, all girlfriends and we'll study them with interest ...... well I shall anyway.
BP
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welcome to the best slot site in the world...bar none!
As BP says we CAN fix your slot machine problems and tell you how to service the machine which is easy.. If your up to doing the work and can describe the problems and show us photos we will fix it,its what we do on this site
As BP says we CAN fix your slot machine problems and tell you how to service the machine which is easy.. If your up to doing the work and can describe the problems and show us photos we will fix it,its what we do on this site
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Yes Kris, as BP and Coppin say, you will be able to do it all yourself and don't need to be put off by how complicated it all seems...Just make sure you get plenty of pictures for your reference and others to help you out. I got my first machine, the Sega Bonanza Star a couple of years ago that was looking very sorry for itself and everyone helped me no end, nothing too much trouble ( just make sure you do exactly what you're advised or you'll just get frustrated before you realise you missed a tiny point!!). It's now sitting proud in our living room keeping young and old happy! . I had the confidence as well to buy two more machines for a bargain that I turned round for more than triple my money.... Have fun with your machine and don't be scared to ask, even if you think you might look daft!!
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Thanks for your replies.
In the first picture where does the spring go (looked everywhere just can't seem to tell it was connected to the slides on the bottom seemed wrong).
In the second picture the machine end up this way with the push thing the wrong way round. The two things might be connected, just don't know.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
In the first picture where does the spring go (looked everywhere just can't seem to tell it was connected to the slides on the bottom seemed wrong).
In the second picture the machine end up this way with the push thing the wrong way round. The two things might be connected, just don't know.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Would really help to see a photo of the machine so we know what we are dealing with here. Your photos hint that this is a late model and partly electric. Can't see for sure but the mech looks to have been converted (by the factory) to use a solenoid based connection between the coin entry and the ability to pull the handle. Thus the coin fires the solenoid into a position that allows the dog & anvil to line up so when you pull the handle the machine cycles.
So are you saying the machine will not work at all? i.e. when you put a coin in nothing happens?
The small part you show is hard to ID from that angle but is not a standard part for an all mechanical machine (I think from what I can see) to MIGHT be a roller arm that clicks on the solenoid to set up the above.
So, we need to see more photos of the machine (inc. one of the full machine) and photos of as much of the machine mech as possible inc. the area you photoed earlier in all its working positions. We need to know what it's not doing and when. If it is electro-mechanical we need to know what happens (if anything) when you put a coin in the machine.
That will do for a start, at least we are off and running, if it is an electro-mech we will get Widget involved, he's an expert on that type, also treefrog will have several of these (no matter what machine it is ) so will be able to check out what's missing. If we ask him nicely and he can find them.
So are you saying the machine will not work at all? i.e. when you put a coin in nothing happens?
The small part you show is hard to ID from that angle but is not a standard part for an all mechanical machine (I think from what I can see) to MIGHT be a roller arm that clicks on the solenoid to set up the above.
So, we need to see more photos of the machine (inc. one of the full machine) and photos of as much of the machine mech as possible inc. the area you photoed earlier in all its working positions. We need to know what it's not doing and when. If it is electro-mechanical we need to know what happens (if anything) when you put a coin in the machine.
That will do for a start, at least we are off and running, if it is an electro-mech we will get Widget involved, he's an expert on that type, also treefrog will have several of these (no matter what machine it is ) so will be able to check out what's missing. If we ask him nicely and he can find them.
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The machine does fire up but only once before you have to move that slanted thing back down. It seems very violent. The other part is from behind the coin chute. It connects to the payout disks. I just don't know were the spring is actually meant to go. The machine is a Sega Monaco and has an electric part in that it pays out a special award when lit, but that's as far as it goes.
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OK, pics clearer now, so not an electromechanical and the odd part is a standard mechanical part although we will need someone to ID it as I hven't had one of these for years.
In the photo below part A is the dog and part T is the anvil. When the machine is at rest waiting for the next coin A should have dropped below T at the end of the previous game but can't come into T again until a coin releases the handle. There are several reasons why this doesn't seem to have happened.
In the photo is the handle as far back as it can go? Does it seem the dog could fall below if encouraged? What do you have to do to make it drop? Are all these parts stiff with old grease?
In the photo below part A is the dog and part T is the anvil. When the machine is at rest waiting for the next coin A should have dropped below T at the end of the previous game but can't come into T again until a coin releases the handle. There are several reasons why this doesn't seem to have happened.
In the photo is the handle as far back as it can go? Does it seem the dog could fall below if encouraged? What do you have to do to make it drop? Are all these parts stiff with old grease?
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I have to take part A off and put it below part T which gets it to work (which is why there's no split pin on). I'm guessing that part T needs adjusting but unsure in case there's something else I should be looking at. Other than this everything seems to go back in place.
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OK, it's looking very much like "T" needs adjusting, but touch nothing yet as this is a very tricky adjustment that effects the timing of the whole machine and is attempted as a last resort (it's not rocket science but you have to do it with careful instructions if you're new to it). I'm hoping others will take a look and I've asked BP to take a look at this post later today to see if all concur before we make any decisions. We are making progress.
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The part in the picture is the reel kicker and is very badly worn and will probably not work. The spring attaches to the back at the same place the payout slides attach to.
Looks like the dog n cog has been adjusted to try and make the worn kicker work. It will need to be moved back a bit and the kicker will need to be repaired / replaced for it to work.
Looks like the dog n cog has been adjusted to try and make the worn kicker work. It will need to be moved back a bit and the kicker will need to be repaired / replaced for it to work.
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Anyone any ideas where I could get a reel kick ( part number 3f-8398) with springs from. The springs on my part seem homemade.
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Just shows what can happen when a photo has nothing to gauge the size from. I totally misread the photo of the part,I though it much smaller than a kicker. Trust me to screw it up.
If no one has one you could get it repaired if you have to. It's just the face that does the kick that's worn out.
If no one has one you could get it repaired if you have to. It's just the face that does the kick that's worn out.
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Just like to say a big thank you to Widget2k4 and coppinpr for pointing me in the right direction as I didn't have a clue.
Thanks again much appreciated.
Thanks again much appreciated.
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No problem. If you can't manage to find one, take it to a steel worker or blacksmith and they should be able to repair it for a couple of beer tokens.
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Let us know once the kicker is repaired. I suspect there will have been a few adjustments made to try and counter the dodgy kicker that will need to be undone.
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Re: Sega / Mills mechanism help
Don't ask me!
So far as I can see you've all covered it.
Just repeating ......
You need to adjust the Dog and Anvil so they just pass each other on the return and then see if the kicker engages. Obviously the spring goes to the front of the machine, as it pulls the kicker forward when released.
Get that far and report back is my advice.
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BP
You had me confused for a minute there?
I actually thought you said the spring goes to the front for the kicker?
Unless your reels spin backwards?
You had me confused for a minute there?
I actually thought you said the spring goes to the front for the kicker?
Unless your reels spin backwards?
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Re: Sega / Mills mechanism help
Yes Keith, yes I did.
Which is also why I said Don't ask me! ...... I'm 63 you know?
I've only had around 60+ of these machines since I started, and can't remember ever having to redress the face of the kickers any more than 20 times. I do remember being totally stuffed by one around 20 years ago until someone pointed out to me the kicker was totally wrong for that machine. I can't remember if they all went front to back or back to back, I am sure they never went sideways though.
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Which is also why I said Don't ask me! ...... I'm 63 you know?
I've only had around 60+ of these machines since I started, and can't remember ever having to redress the face of the kickers any more than 20 times. I do remember being totally stuffed by one around 20 years ago until someone pointed out to me the kicker was totally wrong for that machine. I can't remember if they all went front to back or back to back, I am sure they never went sideways though.
Goodnight
zzzzz
can I have muffins for breakfast?
Re: Sega / Mills mechanism help
Be warned, not all kickers are the same, there are variances.....also for that type of wear, unless and seriously heavily used machine, likely there was an adjustment issue with timing causing drag on the discs
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