Mills Kounter King Trade Stimulator identified

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Mills Kounter King Trade Stimulator identified

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Just picked up this little fascinating device and have not came across one before and wondered if anyone had any info on it?
Love the way the gum vendor works.
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http://www.coinopcollectorforum.com/vie ... f=3&t=3965

The seller in the thread posted a couple of videos on YouTube too
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You have forgotten how to search the forum ;-)

Mills late 30’s stimulator, gumballs

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=835&p=15215&hilit=Kounter#p15215

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Mine was sold at Coventry perhaps 4 years back .... I'll need to check the records, I think it went to Dutchland.
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total laziness tom :roll:
easier for someone else to do it :lol:
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Dates to 1938,has two unusual features,(a) the reels strips only have three symbols on them(so sounds easy to win...it isn't) (b) it stores up free plays on the left and if you match this with the other reels it offers winners up to 60 to 1
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Mine was nothing like that so far as 3 symbols and storing up free plays are concerned, otherwise identical.
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Bueschel's book simply says "looks simple but a tough call, stores up free plays as you rack up points" I don't know how it does this (or even if it does this !PUZZLED! ) but the payout screen does say it will pay up to 60 to 1 although how you make your selection I don't know. Turning the big knob on the front? :!?!:
Love the way the gum vendor works.

So how does the gum vendor work?
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The gum vendor works by turning the knob on the front.
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Presume it holds the coin or has a window or similar to check denomination before payout?
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No windows or any way to check the coin.
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I don't recall it paying out anything other than a gumball.
I remember it as being like all "21" games, a trade stim for the shop keeper to monitor and pay out.
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Yes, I understand it's an attendant pay but what's to stop you playing 1cent then telling attendant you played 5c or any other higher denomination coin, as in video he says it takes any coin or any coin that the coin slot takes.......?

Just presumed that there would be some quick visible check of the last coin unless the machine is only played in front of an attendant?
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I thought that too when seeing the video (although I think I fell asleep a couple of times while the guy was laboriously explaining the workings). There are machines like the Groetchens that allow for several coin sizes but always the last coin is held for the operator to view. I suspect the one in the video just happens to take more than one coin size. What coins will yours take widge?
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Mine seems to only take 1d.
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Mills made three machines in this series: Kounter King, Wild Deuces, and Fruit King. All machines used the same mechanism, all were multi coinage. The witness window is in the rear door along with the reset button. While the Kounter King and Wild Deuces use 5 reels the Fruit King only uses 3 (the 2 outside reels are blanked by the 3 hole reel cover). Hope this helps.
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Is it likely Widge's machine was made as a 1 coin machine version? Seems unlikely he has the wrong back-door with no window?
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I was only going by all 3 of these machines I have in my collection.
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I was only going by all 3 of these machines I have in my collection
I dont doubt you're right at all, could still be this was a UK conversion. Interesting to know if widge's machines has a blanked of rear door or a plain one.
I assume the reset button released the visual coin. Also interesting to know if Widge's machine has the internal parts that dealt with this.
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This is the only photo I can find of the back. Does this look like Widget's or Jra's? Is that the reject door or the coin view?
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