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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:25 pm
I've been offered a Merkur bandit in quite poor condition. It says"Mills" on the top flash but the owner says it's German. Are they rare? I've never heard of Merkur...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:47 pm
I am sure you did a search in this site first before asking as there is a thread on these.....
Would not say rare, but not as common as most machines. Yes German and a lot were converted to british coinage when brought in. I love them and have left mine rough and ready
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:38 pm
I believe there has been one floating around the midlands for a couple of years.
It has major problems and originally went through an auction house for a low price reflecting quite accurately the missing bits and condition.
The new owner did nothing with it though and after some months it reappeared with syrupy words and oodles of excitement and encouraging phrases, all supporting a hefty price tag. It kept reappearing every few months under similar guise.
I am not suggesting for a moment this is the same machine, the one you have stumbled upon may well be superb in every way. I think you need to identify exactly what is needed to restore it as spare parts are not in stock at Tesco at the moment.
Good luck, I'd pay a good price for one, but wouldn't chase one that's mutton dressed as lamb, let alone one that's really offal dressed as mutton.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:06 pm
Thanks for the info BP. This one is up north. Looks complete but it's rough. Been outside under a canopy a few years by the look of it. Wants£300 for it. Not knowing this bandit I was checking if it was rare enough to risk the money. Not that I want to make money on it, just checking I'm not buying a lemon.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:15 pm
Get pictures, has it got the door, very difficult to replace. Cabinets are made of chicken sheds and will not survive poor conditions. Also missing parts would be tough to replace.
I have not seen one sell in UK, except below one that was on eBay earlier in the year for a few months.....think guy wanted £500 for it and would not take offers, also could not confirm working. So not sure what it sold for. One sold in US Morphys auction for very little and I bought mine in public auction for £100, maybe lucky I guess...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:16 am
This could be my first venture into imported German machines, which I have avoided for so long.
Were they 10- or 20-stop? The one in the YouTube link looks like a 10-stop Mills mech. with 20-stop Samson reelstrips.
Presumably a straight copy, like the BMW Dixi...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:41 am
Yes 10 stop and original strips are similar to Turas with large numbers. Unusual reel stops, similar to Beromat machines with pins and no star wheels and race bearings.
If someone offered me a complete one for £300, I would see if they would take £250 and snap it up.....
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:54 am
I'll bear that in mind, although I'd probably take it at £300.
Great music, by the way. ACHTUNG!... ACHTUNG!...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:33 pm
The one I am considering has fruits on the reels not numbers so I guess it has been "updated"
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:26 pm
Do you know if they are Samson-style 20-stop fruits (Mills pattern), or German Wulff pattern (red shading)?
The importers often offered British operators a choice of fruits or numbers, both options having little resemblance to the German equivalents.
Strangely, the wall-type German machines almost always came with the original reel-strips, probably due to the pay-out lines being unlike the familiar American ones.