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Have you thought of using Restor-a-finish from Howard products? It preserves more of the original patina and wear than stripping, and is very easy to use. I think it looks good and I've used it on a couple of Allwin cabinets with great success. And, if you didn't like the result, you could always revert to stripping it.
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As Tallstory suggested Restorafinish is amazing stuff. There is no reason to strip this at all as that's actually a very nice finish. Furniture oil also works well. Takes overnight to soak in, but the result of leaving all the patina is impossible to replicate. And much less time and effort then stripping, and more desirable and hence valuable too.
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geofflove wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:50 pm Any idea of its age?
Has a distinctly '30s vibe.
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geofflove wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:24 pm So I thought you might be interested in the end product. First time I’ve tried using water slide decals. Scanned/made up some artwork and inkjet printed them. A bit fiddly to get on. I damaged one but adds to the slightly vintage look I guess.
Tricky to get stuff to fit the machine. But ended up with some small after dinner chocs like you get in restaurants for the centre, and raisin boxes and green and black mini chic bars for the other 2. I used some strips of Correx to line the tubes to reduce their size to work with these goodies.
Thats a great resto, well done!
I love the way you have preserved the artwork!
My god, ill bet there are a lot of restos going on during lockdown.
One of the few good things to come out of it, helping to preserve coin op history for future generations!
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geofflove wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:50 pm Thanks guys. I’m not sure what make the paper was. It was from MrDecal on eBay. Clear inkjet paper. Seemed to work OK. If I was doing it again I would give 3 coats of clear coat rather than 2 before soaking them as a couple bled. It did advise 3 but I thought that 2 looked enough! I think I was also a bit impatient to get them off the paper when soaking resulted in a couple of creased ones. Fortunately I’d printed a few of each so a bit of waste didn’t matter.

I’m now going to do something with this thing. I understand it’s a cigarette vendor used in hotel lobbies etc. Works great on sixpences. I’m planing on stripping and waxing it as the varnish is pretty tatty. I think sweet cigarettes are the way to go for this one! Any idea of its age?
Looks great in white, I've only seen them in silver before.
Let me know if you find a source for sweet cigs, I can't find them anywhere.
A result of the PC world of today, probably.
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gameswat wrote:As Tallstory suggested Restorafinish is amazing stuff
Does Restorafinish dissolve/remove a varnish finish often found on allwin cases?
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special when lit wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:41 pmLet me know if you find a source for sweet cigs, I can't find them anywhere.
A result of the PC world of today, probably.
Remarkably, the far-more-harmful ACTUAL cigarettes are still readily available, although kept discreetly out-of-sight.
Ask at the newsagent's, when nobody else is in earshot...
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arrgee wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:15 pm Does Restorafinish dissolve/remove a varnish finish often found on allwin cases?
No it doesn't destroy the original finish but adds to it (there are several colours available to match the original). You can do a little light sanding if you like but Restore-a-finish recommend using fine grade wire wool to apply it. Tung oil is good too but requires a bit more practice to get it right.
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Thanks Tallstory for the information, !THUMBS! , I will try Restor a finish on my nest restoration
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Does the product revitalise old varnish, as the one thing I hate is old varnish covering most items from this period. It tends to dry up, discolour and crack and never recover from waxes or oils etc.....as a choice I never varnish anything, have done French polishing though, but messy.....
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I have to confess to being a bit averse to varnish. Much prefer a waxed or polished finished.
I’ve never heard of restor a finish. So maybe I will give that a go. Thanks
Choc cigarettes here. Prob is you have to buy 30 and they are t that cheap. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Input-pieces- ... uage=en_GB

I’m going for 60 boxes of Barrett’s candy sticks (used to be called cigarettes!) for £12 instead. https://stockport.morrisandson.co.uk/p ... 05db&_ss=r
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treefrog wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:38 pm Does the product revitalise old varnish, as the one thing I hate is old varnish covering most items from this period.

I suspect that old cracked varnish is the result of someone re-varnishing the cabinets without properly cleaning and sanding first. Restor-a-finish won't improve that and sanding down to a stable layer is the only option. Shellac is a good finish but I find it can be difficult to get a good, even result with it. Maybe I don't wait long enough but I always find that the second coat dissolves the first, giving a uneven finish. Restor-a-finish on top of shellac works well.

BTW I have no connection with the makers and don't consider myself a cabinet finishing expert - just saying what I have found in my limited experience.
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geofflove wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:50 pm I’m now going to do something with this thing. I understand it’s a cigarette vendor used in hotel lobbies etc.
..... and suddenly there's a similar one on eBay.
The last time I saw one of these for sale it was about forty quid, but that was before the plague.
So I have no idea if £150 is steep.
It's described as being oak, yet at £7.50 p&p it can't weigh very much.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265034685295
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badpenny wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:14 pm
geofflove wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:50 pm I’m now going to do something with this thing. I understand it’s a cigarette vendor used in hotel lobbies etc.
..... and suddenly there's a similar one on eBay.
You don’t have to wait long, as each layer should be thin, and shellac dries fast, but the alcohol will dissolve the previous coat if you try to apply the next one too thickly, or by moving the rubber too slowly. The rubber never rests on the surface, making smooth, continuous gliding movements, with an even pressure. It should be moving when it makes and breaks contact with the wood. Each sweep imparts a very thin layer over the previous one. It's not difficult to master once you get the feel for it.
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badpenny wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:14 pm
geofflove wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:50 pm I’m now going to do something with this thing. I understand it’s a cigarette vendor used in hotel lobbies etc.
..... and suddenly there's a similar one on eBay.

Interesting. I’m guessing this one has been repurposed at some point. Can’t see where the coins go in this one as mine enter through the top. Mine is also oak but the sides are pretty thin so it’s not that heavy.
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Plucked from the Arena sales results - a cigarette dispenser from the same family as the sweet dispenser which started this topic.
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Ah interesting. Yes defiantly the same make and from this I learnt that it is made by Fendar which I didn’t know. And a quick search reveals they might have been involved in some dodgy dealing according to this extract from Hansard!

HC Deb 03 February 1964 vol 688 cc796-7 796
7. Mr. B. Harrison asked the Attorney-General if he will instruct the Director of Public Prosecutions to take proceedings against the firm of Fendars Limited for fraudulently raising money from the public by contracts to supply vending machines.
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§8. Mr. Driberg asked the Attorney-General, in view of the fraudulent activities of Messrs. Fendar Limited, wholesale tobacconists, of 28 Martin Lane, London, E.C.4, in connection with the supply of vending machines, what action has been taken by the Director of Public Prosecutions.
§The Solicitor-General The Director of Public Prosecutions has no evidence that would justify the institution of proceedings against this company. If the hon. Members will let me have any evidence in their possession, I will, of course, see that it is considered.
Mr. Harrison Is my right hon. and learned Friend aware that since I put down this Question I have had dozens of letters from people all over the country who have been victims of this firm and other firms controlled by Anthony Fenton and O. Betts, and it looks as if tens of thousands of pounds have been taken off old-age pensioners and retired people in one way or another under the false premise that they could supplement their pensions with vending machines?
§The Solicitor-General I can only repeat that there is at present no evidence which would justify the institution of proceedings against this company. If my hon. Friend would let me have such evidence or such documents, I will certainly immediately ensure that they are brought to the appropriate attention.
§Miss Harvie Anderson Is my hon. and learned Friend aware that this practice is very extensive in all parts of the United Kingdom and as far away as Glasgow, where this company has been operating on the lines suggested by my hon Friend?
§The Solicitor-General My hon. Friend will appreciate that to institute proceedings evidence is required, and if evidence can be put forward it would be quite right for the hon. Lady to forward it to me to bring it to the attention of the appropriate authority.
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Fendar Limited are listed as Vending Machine Dealers of 28, Martins Lane, London E.C.4, paying a dividend on shares of £2.11 on 16th August 1973.

A fairly common wooden cigarette vendor appears on WorthPoint with this description:
Vintage Cigarette Dispenser / Vending Machine ~*~ Fantastic vintage Cigarette Machine– c.1900’s Made by “Fendar Ltd.” Their makers mark is engraved into the top of the machine.
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Vending machines always fascinate me,I'm always looking for vintage old style vendors to add to the "unusual" page on my web site.
the first one here is interesting in that its clear other makers also made a version of the ready lit fag machine, visible in the background)
the next I'm not quite sure what it sold , the translation seems to come out as " clock construction here in the courtyard" :!?!:
the last one, well god alone knows what stomach-churning delicacy a "speedy Weeny" was "cooked in 20 seconds" im guessing hot dogs !PUKE! I suspect Jane Russell took one look and is putting it back !!

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Speedy Weeny is a Raytheon Hot Dog vending machine. It used radar technolgy to heat the sausage from cold in twenty seconds.
Later domestic hot-dog warmers passed electric current lengthways through the sausage, a simpler means to the same end.
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