Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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speedwell
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Pin Up and Iris Wall machine

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2 attractive machines on Ebay from Bullion993. The pin up machine has an interesting mech. On another site referring to same machine suggests work needs doing. eBay item number:353499460347

I say nothing about the Girls!
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What other site as obviously we are unable to know what they refer to. !PUZZLED!
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The Pin up Girl doesn't appear to have a bell.
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Sorry treefrog. I went on a header on Allwin for sale in UK | 30 second-hand Allwins - For-sale.co.uk https://www.for-sale.co.uk › allwin when I put in "pin up girl made by bussoz paris 1914". The header suggested work needed doing, but when I looked closely nothing in the body of the post. On the contrary the seller indicates both machines in good condition. What's your view on the machines? Both are beyond me but I would be interested to know views and anything about them.
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I noticed a bid on the Pin up Girl of £999.99 was retracted yesterday and instantly brought the bid back down with a bump, now climbing again. I have a distrust of 'private listing-bidder identity protected' listings in general, as a lot can be manipulated with those and you can't see if any of those bidders are zero or single digit fake bidders running up the bid.
I think genuine sellers using the private listings option harm the potential of their sale. It is reassuring for bidders to see others with plenty of previous bid history especially where there is a string of rounded up bids neatly spaced apart.
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I could not agree more. When Ebay introduced it they hailed it as fraud prevention device. That is rubbish and it does the opposite. As Moonriver points out ,with names and previous history it was fairly easy to catch the false bidding out. I suppose the only way is ( perhaps as ever) set your limit and keep to it whatever the others bid. I was an under bidder on a number of occasions and was within a very short time contacted to say the 'winner' had pulled out. You can guess my reply. I prefer now to use something like hammersnipe. It helps keep my itchy figures away!
On the actual machines does anyone have any historical information/ views about them? I like the look of both.
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The fact nobody else seems to want to share their views on these two machines indicates to me many covetous eyes are casting insatiable desirables in their direction. I predict that many out there are hoping not many have noticed them and the low prices showing so far are an indication of impending bargains.
I'd bet my Grannie's hind leg that the vendor has received umpteen mails daily offering him wedges of folding to take them off auction with immediate effect.
The temptation to do so must be high, especially if you calculate the fees. Suppose PayPoo is used? He doesn't say cash only.

So, two rare machines very rarely offered, images look excellent, someone should be happy with the outcome.
It won't be me, I would have valued them at well over a grand each before this period of £850 Arcadians and £1450 R&W Allwins.
So currently? Anyone's guess, I'll watch, out of entertainment of course.
Good luck everyone, your first hurdle is the auctions staying until the end. If they do then the last few seconds could be heady.

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well you've managed to big those up nicely, i'll let you know when i'm next selling something SkEpTiCaL
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speedwell wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:59 pm On the actual machines does anyone have any historical information/ views about them? I like the look of both.
The Iris was introduced in 1931 by Jentzsch & Meerz of Leipzig and is more or less a clone of the French-made roulette wall machines of Bussoz and others that had already been popular for three decades. These usually had a carved pediment, but Iris didn't - I assume this has been added. They're not impossibly rare in the UK, but certainly not common either.

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The Pin Up Girl was a Bussoz 'roulette' originally, called Girouette. To make them more appealing in British arcades they were revamped and anglicized by the Exclusive Automatics Co. (new case, mech converted to penny, bigger turning handle, with a plainer, more modern looking cabinet). See example in Museum.
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Thank You Mr. PM. A fount of knowledge as always.
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