Allwin in need of tlc

[bobajob]

Hi everyone,

I've just bought this allwin and need your help in identifying what's missing.
Obviously the coin hopper and slide are gone but is there anything else? Help with possible pictures and dimensions of coin mech would be greatly appreciated as I have the kit to make new just need to see what it is that needs making.
Also when you turn the pay-out knob all the balls drop rather than 1,

Regards,
Bob

[pennymachines]

Hi Bob and to the site.

Everything appears to be in order above the missing hopper. It's not possible to tell from your picture what else (if anything) is missing 'down below'.

As it's not a Reserve ball allwin, there only needs to be one ball inside - delivered as soon as you insert a penny. When you turn the knob following a win, the ball drops back into play. Ball return can be turned off via the knurled knob (centre, right) on your mechanism, altering the ball channel.

[bobajob]

thanks for quick reply. I'll see if I can make up a hopper & slide to get measurements then make a permanent replacement.

Do you have any idea what sort of age the machine is?
I can't see any numbers or anything inside.

Regards
bob

[pennymachines]

It appears to be a pre-war Oliver Whales Allwin Deluxe, which would date it to 1939.

[bobajob]

Bob

[bobajob]

More question's I'm afraid.
I've stripped out the front of machine and underneath some of the fittings there is a backflash as shown in the resource section.Would the green and yellow plastic have been original or the paper backflash?

Thanks,
Bob

[pennymachines]

We like questions here...
What does the flash underneath look like? Chances are the yellow and green plastics were put on by Oliver Whales. Some of their first allwins were revamped from earlier (often German) machines.
By the way - I've found a supplier of TLC.

[john t peterson]

Careful, Mr. Pennymachines. We may need Nursey to limit your computer time again.

J Peterson
TenderLovingCaution in the USofA

[badpenny]

Oh my god! Nursey, Nursey, Mr.P's out of bed again!!!

[bobajob]

Could do with some of that.
I've attached pic of the part of the backflash. Thought it was the same as Resources but it's not.
Also noticed all the cups are winners?

[pennymachines]

That dark green area looks like the original colour of the plastic which has been protected from fading by the chromed plate.
The seven cups should be all wins (hence the name of the game). You lose when the ball bounces off and falls to the lose hole below.

[ofum]

We manufacture Allwins and do not usually sell spares (apart from win cups and coin slots). However, if it helps, we have a 1d. coin hopper available.
You may also wish to replace the old backflash. Take a look at:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMUSEMENT-AR ... SwqeZamx-Q

Happy to help if I can.
Lenny
sales@retro-arcade.co.uk

[bobajob]

Thanks Lenny for your help. Just about finished now bar a bit of tweaking. Fitted new plain plastic to the back, cleaned up the metalwork and used scratch cover on the cabinet so it retained its character.
Well pleased with my efforts so far - will post a photo tomorrow.

[bobajob]

As promised picture of my efforts. Just the door for cashbox to finish.

Sorry picture is side on I couldn't get it to rotate.*
*Fixed - Site Admin.

[treefrog]

Fine selection of whiskey and a fine machine.

Some pictures I open on my iPad like this one when expanded appear literally expanded and stretched. Only happens on some and wonder if it is the source or just me

[pennymachines]

Some pictures I open on my iPad like this one when expanded appear literally expanded and stretched.

Is it OK now I ran it through Photoshop?

Looking good Bobajob Well done!

Here's an Oliver Whales multi-cup allwin of the same period as yours which sold a few days ago. The plastics are faded just as yours were.

[brianh]

Hi
I'm using this thread as seems most appropriate - was wondering if someone could identify this allwin I just acquired. It came along with an Oliver Whales machine I wanted but I'm just having trouble identifying this one. Apart from calling itself "The Skill Win Deluxe" I can't find any other clues. Seller had it in his bedroom for 30 odd years (took it in payment for a debt I understand!) so no clues as to its history. Has a fair bit of work needed but should come up quite nice, just would be good to know how old it might be and who made it.
Many thanks.

[arrgee]

Quite an eclectic mix there Brian, looks as if it has elements of Oliver Whales, Bryans and BMCo machines - any pics of the mech?

[pennymachines]

That was my take on it too. Nice machine though. My guess would be the guts are German (Saxony) and that might be evident from a look inside (remnants of reserve ball feature, for example). Looks like something has been removed and filled on the door, left of the pay handle. I notice the handle turns anti-clockwise which is quite unusual (a feature of Philip Shefras allwins).

[brianh]

Thanks guys - here's a couple more pics in case that helps. Inside looks pretty basic but does seem to have been adapted or altered - beyond my knowledge of these things so any comments good or bad would be appreciated.
Personally what I liked was the, to me unusual, cabinet top and sides.